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	<description>An amateur's outlook on computation and mathematics.</description>
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		<title>By: noah</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2235</link>
		<dc:creator>noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but printing is dead anyway! Or something.

I mean, really, can’t we all just put our computers together to get some sort of online free wikified version in a PLoS vein?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but printing is dead anyway! Or something.</p>
<p>I mean, really, can’t we all just put our computers together to get some sort of online free wikified version in a PLoS vein?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Huffman</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2183</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read every word of every issue for many years, even without understanding, confident that someday it would all make sense.  Now, retired, some has come to make great sense but not the passing of SA.  I still subscribe but the pallid ghost of SA winds up in the round-tuit stack.  Their e-edition is as bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read every word of every issue for many years, even without understanding, confident that someday it would all make sense.  Now, retired, some has come to make great sense but not the passing of SA.  I still subscribe but the pallid ghost of SA winds up in the round-tuit stack.  Their e-edition is as bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2150</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I remember the great Scientific American of the early days, what I would give to have the real SA back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I remember the great Scientific American of the early days, what I would give to have the real SA back</p>
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		<title>By: Raoul Duke</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator>Raoul Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but printing is dead anyway! Or something.

I mean, really, can't we all just put our computers together to get some sort of online free wikified version in a PLoS vein?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but printing is dead anyway! Or something.</p>
<p>I mean, really, can&#8217;t we all just put our computers together to get some sort of online free wikified version in a PLoS vein?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Baillie</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2136</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Baillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the greatest tragedy is that this generation has no Martin Gardner to inspire kids to be interested in math.  I'll bet that many young people of my generation were inspired to either major in math, or learn more about it, thanks to Gardner's "Mathematical Games" section.

It is a pity that the new dumbed-down Scientific American doesn't print a math column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the greatest tragedy is that this generation has no Martin Gardner to inspire kids to be interested in math.  I&#8217;ll bet that many young people of my generation were inspired to either major in math, or learn more about it, thanks to Gardner&#8217;s &#8220;Mathematical Games&#8221; section.</p>
<p>It is a pity that the new dumbed-down Scientific American doesn&#8217;t print a math column.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Ward</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2133</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 16:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just subscribed to SA - sorry for killing it. :( There's a ton of stuff on the web, but you need a DJ to point out the good stuff. That's why radio is so awful nowadays - no DJs. 

I remember learning about atoms in school and being told by the nuns that electrons only circled protons, and I brought in a SA picture of an electron circling a muon to prove them wrong. (I was quite the prig). I also sent Martin Gardner a fan letter on Steiner Trees, and he wrote back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just subscribed to SA - sorry for killing it. :( There&#8217;s a ton of stuff on the web, but you need a DJ to point out the good stuff. That&#8217;s why radio is so awful nowadays - no DJs. </p>
<p>I remember learning about atoms in school and being told by the nuns that electrons only circled protons, and I brought in a SA picture of an electron circling a muon to prove them wrong. (I was quite the prig). I also sent Martin Gardner a fan letter on Steiner Trees, and he wrote back.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul DeLong</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2132</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul DeLong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of my fondest memories of SA are of issues in the early-to-mid 80's.  I can attribute much of my interest in particle physics and high-energy physics to articles written in those issues (I still have them in a shoebox somewhere).  It wasn't until many years later, and more schooling, that I was able to begin to understand the math behind it all (still working on it - the math, that is - there's a lot of it).

But these days, the quality seems to have seriously slipped, and they seem more interested in printing flashy low-quality graphics to catch peoples' attention.  And every other issue seems to have a rendition of Einstein's face on the cover.  What's the deal?  I won't deny he was a very smart guy who made some great contributions, but lately the coverage of him seems to border on fetishism.  But perhaps I'm conflating SA with other magazines (Discover) doing the same thing.

There is still occasionally a good article, but it's rarely enough to get me to buy an issue (I'll instead read it in the coffee bar and put it back on the rack).  I spend my money on American Scientist instead.

Anyhow, sorry if that became a bit of a rant.  I couldn't pass-up the opportunity to put in my two cents. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of my fondest memories of SA are of issues in the early-to-mid 80&#8217;s.  I can attribute much of my interest in particle physics and high-energy physics to articles written in those issues (I still have them in a shoebox somewhere).  It wasn&#8217;t until many years later, and more schooling, that I was able to begin to understand the math behind it all (still working on it - the math, that is - there&#8217;s a lot of it).</p>
<p>But these days, the quality seems to have seriously slipped, and they seem more interested in printing flashy low-quality graphics to catch peoples&#8217; attention.  And every other issue seems to have a rendition of Einstein&#8217;s face on the cover.  What&#8217;s the deal?  I won&#8217;t deny he was a very smart guy who made some great contributions, but lately the coverage of him seems to border on fetishism.  But perhaps I&#8217;m conflating SA with other magazines (Discover) doing the same thing.</p>
<p>There is still occasionally a good article, but it&#8217;s rarely enough to get me to buy an issue (I&#8217;ll instead read it in the coffee bar and put it back on the rack).  I spend my money on American Scientist instead.</p>
<p>Anyhow, sorry if that became a bit of a rant.  I couldn&#8217;t pass-up the opportunity to put in my two cents. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2131</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 13:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Derek R:

&lt;blockquote&gt;May I ask, was there an uptick in subs at AS when SA changed format?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think the change in Scientific American was sudden enough for such an event to be detectable. It wasn't an overnight transformation but a result of many large and small changes implemented over a period of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Derek R:</p>
<blockquote><p>May I ask, was there an uptick in subs at AS when SA changed format?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the change in Scientific American was sudden enough for such an event to be detectable. It wasn&#8217;t an overnight transformation but a result of many large and small changes implemented over a period of years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakob</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 09:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many times, when reading your American Scientist columns, I have
asked myself: didn't Scientific American once feature great articles
like these ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many times, when reading your American Scientist columns, I have<br />
asked myself: didn&#8217;t Scientific American once feature great articles<br />
like these ?</p>
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		<title>By: Derek R</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2129</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the visceral disappointment I felt when they morphed into an replica of Discover magazine. I unsubscribed immediately and subbed to American Scientist. (May I ask, was there an uptick in subs at AS when SA changed format?)

One thing the internet doesn't give you is an editor. There's a seeming infinity of good stuff out there, but sometimes you need someone to filter through all the crap and reveal the true gems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the visceral disappointment I felt when they morphed into an replica of Discover magazine. I unsubscribed immediately and subbed to American Scientist. (May I ask, was there an uptick in subs at AS when SA changed format?)</p>
<p>One thing the internet doesn&#8217;t give you is an editor. There&#8217;s a seeming infinity of good stuff out there, but sometimes you need someone to filter through all the crap and reveal the true gems.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Short</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2128</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My memories of the old versus the new Scientific American was there was always something of personal interest in the old but not in the new.  Even if it was Mathematical Games or Amateur Scientist, I always felt I got full value.  At some point they lost it and they lost me as a regular reader of some 30+ years.  I have not read Scientific American in several years but look forward to American Scientist because I feel that is where I get full value.  Even if the articles aren't about subjects of interest, there is always the regular columns or the book reviews.   

I am not wedded to print.  Much more important are timely and intellectually stimulating articles that appeal to a wide range of interests.  These articles are a combination of features and columns.  Even if the editors want a special issue, devoted to a single topic, there should be appeal to all readers.  For example, at our departmental seminars, we often have speakers talking about cancer research.  Most are utterly abominable since the speaker is so caught up in the jargon and acronyms of the business.  But the other day, I heard a talk that was delightful because the speaker took the time to make his talk understandable to the physical scientists and engineers without dumbing it down.  The biologists also thought is was a great talk.   The same applies to what ever is the form for disseminating the information.  How you describe the content, not what whiz-bangy methods you might use is what matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My memories of the old versus the new Scientific American was there was always something of personal interest in the old but not in the new.  Even if it was Mathematical Games or Amateur Scientist, I always felt I got full value.  At some point they lost it and they lost me as a regular reader of some 30+ years.  I have not read Scientific American in several years but look forward to American Scientist because I feel that is where I get full value.  Even if the articles aren&#8217;t about subjects of interest, there is always the regular columns or the book reviews.   </p>
<p>I am not wedded to print.  Much more important are timely and intellectually stimulating articles that appeal to a wide range of interests.  These articles are a combination of features and columns.  Even if the editors want a special issue, devoted to a single topic, there should be appeal to all readers.  For example, at our departmental seminars, we often have speakers talking about cancer research.  Most are utterly abominable since the speaker is so caught up in the jargon and acronyms of the business.  But the other day, I heard a talk that was delightful because the speaker took the time to make his talk understandable to the physical scientists and engineers without dumbing it down.  The biologists also thought is was a great talk.   The same applies to what ever is the form for disseminating the information.  How you describe the content, not what whiz-bangy methods you might use is what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2127</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly didn't mean to suggest there's no further need for "selective and creative storytellers." Quite the contrary. But I think the storytelling is going to have to be done in a somewhat different context. For starters, most of it's going to be done online, not on a printing press. And that requires a change more fundamental than just posting PDFs instead of mailing magazines. Somehow we have to exploit the possibilities of the medium. We have to recognize that there's a whole universe of knowledge already out there and indexed for quick retrieval. We have to entice readers to participate in the whole show. My sense is that we're just figuring out how to make all that work. In the forties, Scientific American was a new kind of thing, but once it was created, it seemed obvious. What's the new obvious?

And of course I too am an undying fan of Martin Gardner and the Mathematical Games slot in the magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly didn&#8217;t mean to suggest there&#8217;s no further need for &#8220;selective and creative storytellers.&#8221; Quite the contrary. But I think the storytelling is going to have to be done in a somewhat different context. For starters, most of it&#8217;s going to be done online, not on a printing press. And that requires a change more fundamental than just posting PDFs instead of mailing magazines. Somehow we have to exploit the possibilities of the medium. We have to recognize that there&#8217;s a whole universe of knowledge already out there and indexed for quick retrieval. We have to entice readers to participate in the whole show. My sense is that we&#8217;re just figuring out how to make all that work. In the forties, Scientific American was a new kind of thing, but once it was created, it seemed obvious. What&#8217;s the new obvious?</p>
<p>And of course I too am an undying fan of Martin Gardner and the Mathematical Games slot in the magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Amit</title>
		<link>http://bit-player.org/2009/sic-transit#comment-2126</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Scientific American. Some thoughts that came to my mind as I (another non-subscribing fan in my youthful past) was reading this:

For me, the saddest and most noticeable aspect of SA's unraveling was the transformation of the Mathematical Recreations column (in its various incarnations).  For a period of time it was (again, for me) the brightest spot in each issue. I had hundreds of older issues featuring Gardner, Hofstadter and Dewdney, and I was enjoying Ian Stewart's work on the column on the then newer issues. It then took a sharp turn south and I virtually lost interest in the column and, to some extent, in the magazine as a whole.

It is true that today you can find information about Chaitin's Omega, Lisp and self-reference very easily using various resources on the web. I'm less convinced that the sheer availability of information is as useful as the selective and creative story-telling achieved by Scientific American's editors and contributors. 

The wisdom of the crowds is supposed to allow us, as consumers of information (or goods), to separate wheat from chaff in the new world.  I certainly believe this is true in some domains, but I'm not convinced this is always the case. Time will tell if the younger generation will indeed find effective replacements for the good judgment and creativity of people like Gardner and Hofstadter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Scientific American. Some thoughts that came to my mind as I (another non-subscribing fan in my youthful past) was reading this:</p>
<p>For me, the saddest and most noticeable aspect of SA&#8217;s unraveling was the transformation of the Mathematical Recreations column (in its various incarnations).  For a period of time it was (again, for me) the brightest spot in each issue. I had hundreds of older issues featuring Gardner, Hofstadter and Dewdney, and I was enjoying Ian Stewart&#8217;s work on the column on the then newer issues. It then took a sharp turn south and I virtually lost interest in the column and, to some extent, in the magazine as a whole.</p>
<p>It is true that today you can find information about Chaitin&#8217;s Omega, Lisp and self-reference very easily using various resources on the web. I&#8217;m less convinced that the sheer availability of information is as useful as the selective and creative story-telling achieved by Scientific American&#8217;s editors and contributors. </p>
<p>The wisdom of the crowds is supposed to allow us, as consumers of information (or goods), to separate wheat from chaff in the new world.  I certainly believe this is true in some domains, but I&#8217;m not convinced this is always the case. Time will tell if the younger generation will indeed find effective replacements for the good judgment and creativity of people like Gardner and Hofstadter.</p>
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